{"id":5901,"date":"2022-04-05T14:43:22","date_gmt":"2022-04-05T12:43:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/?p=5901"},"modified":"2022-04-05T14:43:24","modified_gmt":"2022-04-05T12:43:24","slug":"mf-dnes-skolni-audity-by-se-mely-zamerit-i-na-hrozby-zevnitr-rika-radni-po-utoku","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/?p=5901","title":{"rendered":"MF DNES: \u0160koln\u00ed audity by se m\u011bly zam\u011b\u0159it i na hrozby zevnit\u0159, \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 radn\u00ed po \u00fatoku\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>P\u0159\u00edpad vra\u017edy u\u010ditele jedn\u00edm z \u017e\u00e1k\u016f na st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161kole v pra\u017esk\u00e9 Michli sleduje od \u010dtvrtka cel\u00e1 zem\u011b. O zp\u016fsobu, jak\u00fdm jsou \u0161koly z\u0159izovan\u00e9 hlavn\u00edm m\u011bstem Prahou zabezpe\u010den\u00e9, mluv\u00ed v rozhovoru pro MF DNES pra\u017esk\u00fd radn\u00ed pro \u0161kolstv\u00ed V\u00edt \u0160imral a \u0159editelka magistr\u00e1tn\u00edho odboru \u0161kolstv\u00ed, ml\u00e1de\u017ee a t\u011blov\u00fdchovy Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jak bude nyn\u00ed nutn\u00e9 pracovat s \u017e\u00e1ky z dot\u010den\u00e9 \u0161koly?<\/strong><br>V\u00edt \u0160imral: Hned od za\u010d\u00e1tku jsme za\u010dali skl\u00e1dat interven\u010dn\u00ed t\u00fdm s na\u0161imi pedagogicko-psychologick\u00fdmi poradnami. Ten za\u010dne ve \u0161kole od pond\u011bl\u00ed&nbsp;<em>(dnes, pozn. red., rozhovor vznikal v p\u00e1tek)&nbsp;<\/em>p\u016fsobit za podpory interven\u010dn\u00edho t\u00fdmu policie, kter\u00fd m\u00e1 s krizov\u00fdmi situacemi mnoho zku\u0161enost\u00ed.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1: Pr\u00e1ce s nimi u\u017e za\u010dala bezprost\u0159edn\u011b po incidentu. Prvn\u00ed intervence ve \u0161kole je v pl\u00e1nu na pond\u011bl\u00ed.\u00a0<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jak\u00e1 bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed opat\u0159en\u00ed funguj\u00ed ve \u0161kol\u00e1ch z\u0159izovan\u00fdch hlavn\u00edm m\u011bstem?<br><\/strong>V\u00edt \u0160imral: Na\u0161e \u0161koly proch\u00e1zej\u00ed pravideln\u00fdm bezpe\u010dnostn\u00edm auditem. V r\u00e1mci t\u011bchto audit\u016f se aktualizuj\u00ed na\u0161e data o tom, jak zabezpe\u010den\u00ed na \u0161kol\u00e1ch vypad\u00e1, a n\u00e1sledn\u011b se doporu\u010d\u00ed i p\u0159\u00edpadn\u00e1 vylep\u0161en\u00ed. Je ale pravda, \u017ee v\u011bt\u0161ina t\u011bch audit\u016f je aktu\u00e1ln\u011b zam\u011b\u0159en\u00e1 na hrozbu z venku, nikoliv na p\u0159\u00edpad, kdy je \u00fato\u010dn\u00edkem \u017e\u00e1k \u0161koly nebo zam\u011bstnanec.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1: Bezpe\u010dnosti jsme se ve \u0161kol\u00e1ch za\u010dali intenzivn\u011b v\u011bnovat v roce 2013, kdy do\u0161lo\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.idnes.cz\/jihlava\/zpravy\/pobodani-na-obchodni-akademii-ve-zdare-nad-sazavou.A141014_090808_jihlava-zpravy_mv\">k incidentu ve \u017d\u010f\u00e1ru<\/a>\u00a0<em>(na obchodn\u00ed akademii ve \u017d\u010f\u00e1ru nad S\u00e1zavou\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.idnes.cz\/jihlava\/zpravy\/pobodani-na-obchodni-akademii-ve-zdare-nad-sazavou.A141014_090808_jihlava-zpravy_mv\"><em>\u00fato\u010dnice s no\u017eem pobodala n\u011bkolik student\u016f<\/em><\/a><em>, pozn. red.)<\/em>. Od t\u00e9 doby ve\u0161ker\u00fd person\u00e1l na\u0161ich \u0161kol pro\u0161el masivn\u00edm \u0161kolen\u00edm, kter\u00e9 se jmenovalo Invakuace, tedy jak se chovat, kdy\u017e je \u00fato\u010dn\u00edk v budov\u011b. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 na v\u0161ech na\u0161ich \u0161kol\u00e1ch d\u011bl\u00e1 extern\u00ed odborn\u00e1 firma bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed audity, v r\u00e1mci kter\u00fdch se \u0159e\u0161\u00ed hlavn\u011b fyzick\u00e1 ochrana budov, tedy vstupy, kamerov\u00e9 syst\u00e9my a dal\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jak se maj\u00ed \u017e\u00e1ci a u\u010ditel\u00e9 v takov\u00fdch chv\u00edl\u00edch zachovat?<\/strong><br>V\u00edt \u0160imral: Z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed samoz\u0159ejm\u011b na tom, odkud \u00fatok p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed nebo jak moc velk\u00e1 oblast je ohro\u017eena. D\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 je hlavn\u011b co nejv\u00edce zamezit \u00fato\u010dn\u00edkovi v p\u0159\u00edstupu k \u017e\u00e1k\u016fm, ale i k pracovn\u00edk\u016fm \u0161koly a n\u00e1sledn\u011b ve spolupr\u00e1ci s polici\u00ed budovu co nejrychleji opustit.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1: V p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b d\u011bt\u00ed je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 nehr\u00e1t si na hrdinu. Zamknout se ve t\u0159\u00edd\u011b a znemo\u017enit, aby se k nim \u00fato\u010dn\u00edk dostal. V tomto ohledu se \u017e\u00e1ci ve \u010dtvrtek zachovali spr\u00e1vn\u011b. N\u00e1sledn\u011b pak vy\u0161li ven ze t\u0159\u00edd a\u017e po pokynu policie. Je tak\u00e9 nutn\u00e9 co nejd\u0159\u00edve volat slo\u017eky z\u00e1chrann\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu, co\u017e v\u0161echno nastalo a reakce t\u011bchto slo\u017eek byla velmi rychl\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jak se magistr\u00e1t sna\u017e\u00ed p\u0159edch\u00e1zet takov\u00fdm incident\u016fm?<\/strong><br>V\u00edt \u0160imral: Jedn\u00edm z n\u00e1stroj\u016f jsou zmi\u0148ovan\u00e9 audity. Je zde tak\u00e9 ot\u00e1zka, kter\u00e1 se v \u010cesku dlouhodob\u011b podce\u0148uje, a ta se t\u00fdk\u00e1 n\u011bjak\u00e9 dlouhodob\u00e9 pedagogicko-psychologick\u00e9 kazuistiky. Zde vid\u00edm slabinu, kter\u00e1 by se m\u011bla \u0159e\u0161it na st\u00e1tn\u00ed \u00farovni. M\u011blo by doj\u00edt k pos\u00edlen\u00ed \u00favazk\u016f na \u0161koln\u00edch poradensk\u00fdch pracovi\u0161t\u00edch, co\u017e znamen\u00e1 p\u0159irozen\u011b v\u00edce pen\u011bz na \u0161koln\u00ed psychology a \u0161koln\u00ed poradce. P\u0159edch\u00e1zet takov\u00fdm incident\u016fm by bylo mo\u017en\u00e9 tak, \u017ee se ka\u017ed\u00fd \u017e\u00e1k n\u011bjak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem dlouhodob\u011b monitoruje a u\u017e dop\u0159edu se n\u011bkde mohou zvednout \u010derven\u00e9 praporky, \u017ee s \u017e\u00e1kem je n\u011bco \u0161patn\u011b.\u00a0<br>Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1: Zcela p\u0159edch\u00e1zet se takov\u00fdm ud\u00e1lostem ned\u00e1. Prevence je ale nezbytn\u00e1 a prost\u011b mus\u00ed fungovat, proto\u017ee neb\u00fdt j\u00ed, tak by po\u010det takov\u00fdch skutk\u016f byl u\u017e \u00fapln\u011b jinde.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Zaznamenali jste zv\u00fd\u0161enou agresivitu mezi d\u011btmi, nap\u0159\u00edklad ve spojitosti s frustrac\u00ed z pandemie?<\/strong><br>V\u00edt \u0160imral: Psychick\u00e1 str\u00e1nka \u017e\u00e1k\u016f je na tom mnohem h\u016f\u0159e ne\u017e p\u0159ed covidem. V\u00edce se to ale projevuje v po\u010dtu sebevra\u017ed a sebepo\u0161kozov\u00e1n\u00ed, jejich\u017e n\u00e1r\u016fst je z dat vid\u011bt u\u017e nyn\u00ed. Se soci\u00e1ln\u00ed izolac\u00ed se d\u011bti popasov\u00e1valy je\u0161t\u011b h\u016f\u0159 ne\u017e dosp\u011bl\u00ed. V\u011bt\u0161\u00ed po\u010det n\u00e1silnost\u00ed nebo \u00fatok\u016f proti ostatn\u00edm z dat ale nevypl\u00fdv\u00e1.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1: Po dvou letech covidu v\u0161ichni zaznamenali ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed psychickou odolnost u d\u011bt\u00ed. Pedagogicko-psychologick\u00e9 poradny ka\u017edop\u00e1dn\u011b nezaznamen\u00e1vaj\u00ed vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed agresi, ale roste po\u010det psychick\u00fdch probl\u00e9mu u d\u011bt\u00ed. Dokonce i n\u00e1r\u016fst po\u010dtu psychiatrick\u00fdch diagn\u00f3z.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Bude tento incident impulzem k n\u011bjak\u00fdm zm\u011bn\u00e1m?<\/strong><br>V\u00edt \u0160imral: Je ot\u00e1zka, jestli pr\u00e1v\u011b po tom, co se \u010dtvrtek stalo, nen\u00ed \u010das postupy zm\u011bnit a upravit zad\u00e1n\u00ed t\u011bch audit\u016f, aby reflektovaly i mo\u017enost hrozby zevnit\u0159. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 je to sign\u00e1l, \u017ee je pot\u0159eba nav\u00fd\u0161it \u00favazky \u0161koln\u00edch psycholog\u016f a poradc\u016f.\u00a0<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1: P\u0159ipravujeme nyn\u00ed vznik nov\u00e9ho krizov\u00e9ho centra, kter\u00e9 by fungovalo p\u0159i pedagogicko-psychologick\u00e9 poradn\u011b, o \u010dem\u017e se ale mluv\u00ed u\u017e od zimy, tedy d\u00e1vno p\u0159ed touto konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed ud\u00e1lost\u00ed. Bude se jednat o sty\u010dn\u00e9 pracovi\u0161t\u011b pro \u0161koly a \u0159adov\u00e9 pracovn\u00edky z poraden, kde budou odborn\u00edci, metodici, preventist\u00e9 a bude prov\u00e1zan\u00e9 i s krizov\u00fdm interven\u010dn\u00edm t\u00fdmem policie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Je nab\u00eddka psychologick\u00e9 p\u00e9\u010de pro d\u011bti dostate\u010dn\u00e1?<\/strong><br>V\u00edt \u0160imral: Bohu\u017eel je probl\u00e9m i to, \u017ee i kdy\u017e na tuto oblast d\u00e1me v\u00edce pen\u011bz, tak nem\u00e1me dostatek psycholog\u016f. Tak\u017ee tam ur\u010dit\u011b je\u0161t\u011b mus\u00ed doj\u00edt ke spolupr\u00e1ci s fakultami, univerzitami, aby se zajistily dostate\u010dn\u00e9 person\u00e1ln\u00ed kapacity.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1: Na p\u00e9\u010di o psychick\u00e9 zdrav\u00ed nejsou kapacity. Kdy\u017e chce rodi\u010d pro sv\u00e9 d\u00edt\u011b sehnat psychiatra, tak s t\u00edm bude m\u00edt velk\u00fd probl\u00e9m, a to plat\u00ed obzvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165 v Praze. De facto to nejde.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Je mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee by se Praha vydala americk\u00fdm sm\u011brem s detektory kov\u016f ve \u0161kol\u00e1ch?<\/strong><br>V\u00edt \u0160imral: St\u00e1t se to m\u016f\u017ee, je to nakonec na rozhodnut\u00ed samotn\u00fdch \u0159editel\u016f a z\u0159izovatel\u016f. Za m\u011b to ale nen\u00ed optim\u00e1ln\u00ed sc\u00e9n\u00e1\u0159, kter\u00e9mu bychom se m\u011bli vyhnout pr\u00e1v\u011b p\u0159\u00edmo prac\u00ed s d\u011btmi. Ne\u017e zav\u00e9st model, kdy v\u0161echno mus\u00ed b\u00fdt prohled\u00e1v\u00e1no a d\u011bti musej\u00ed proch\u00e1zet detektorem kovu, bych rad\u011bji ud\u011blal v\u0161echny kroky k vyhnut\u00ed se tomu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lenka N\u011bmcov\u00e1: Mo\u017en\u00e9 je v\u0161echno. Sami vid\u00edme, jak se sv\u011bt vyv\u00edj\u00ed. P\u0159edstavovat si to nechci. Osobn\u011b si ale mysl\u00edm, \u017ee by to do deseti let mohla b\u00fdt realita.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Rozhovor vy\u0161el v MF Dnes v pond\u011bl\u00ed 4.  dubna.<br><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><br><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>P\u0159\u00edpad vra\u017edy u\u010ditele jedn\u00edm z \u017e\u00e1k\u016f na st\u0159edn\u00ed \u0161kole v pra\u017esk\u00e9 Michli sleduje od \u010dtvrtka cel\u00e1 zem\u011b. O zp\u016fsobu, jak\u00fdm jsou \u0161koly z\u0159izovan\u00e9 hlavn\u00edm m\u011bstem Prahou zabezpe\u010den\u00e9, mluv\u00ed v rozhovoru [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":748,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[3,8,4],"class_list":["post-5901","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-aktualne-ze-skolstvi","tag-reditel","tag-rodic-zak","tag-ucitel"],"acf":[],"gutentor_comment":0,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5901","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5901"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5901\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5902,"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5901\/revisions\/5902"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/748"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5901"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5901"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prahaskolska-backup.200.solutions\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5901"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}